MAUI FIRES - WHERE ARE THE RESCUE TEAMS?
Thank you. Tempered, yes.
There is combustible material in cars, some of which have been mentioned. Add the strong winds and a single car on fire could generate temperatures higher than some larger fires on a day with not much breeze.
The people who were in those cars on Front Street and got out and into the water, had to do so because some cars had started smoking. Static object (cars that were stopped) receiving hits from embers and receiving heat from flames in buildings some metres away. Either of which, or both, could ignite something flammable in the cars and kick things off.
As most of us will know, if we barbecue some meat above a fire it will eventually cook even if the flames don't visibly touch the meat. In the case of Front Street, with wind direction aiming the flames from buildings etc sideways to the cars and ocean, the cars were the meat on the barbecue. And nobody could stay to film and see if flames (as well as embers/larger burning debris) actually visibly touched the cars or not, because of the tremendous heat.
Why did they close the car doors behind them given the urgent situation, all the footage I have seen all have closed car doors. Personally I think they were cremated there in their cars in most cases. Where are the parents looking for their children? I don't see many, again probably dead. All MY Opinion based on what I see.
There's a few that don't have doors closed but most do seem to. If we try and step into their shoes for a possible answer - at the time they step out it looks like their car might be toast. But at the time, they are not toast and the car isn't toast yet so you close the door. If you leave the door open you would further guarantee embers catching fire on the interior fabric. So that, and plain old habit?
I see. No, plenty of self-recorded videos by people who were in cars in Front Street, got out and into the water. And testimonies including two men who got out, saw a woman still in her car and convinced her to get out.
Slightly ajar.
Slightly ajar.
Open.
Some found their kids dead. I'm not sure how a parent, in Lahaina, sending a message out to the internet would help them locate their child, in Lahaina. Not really the kind of thing most parents would want to do in these circumstances, I'd imagine, unless their children were somewhere else.
Horizontal flames extending 10 or slightly more metres out, in my opinion. Imagine being downwind of that, even two or three houses away, on the receiving end of that heat
Taken from this video @9:16 :
It's already being called "The Biden Curtain," as new videos from Lahaina, Maui, reveal miles of black curtains erected to prevent people from seeing what's happening at the origin site of this month's catastrophic wildfires in Hawaii.
Geoff Cygnus, a citizen journalist on TikTok, posted the video, with a caption reading: "Miles and miles of black fencing being put up in Lahaina. Ground Zero is now behind the Biden curtain."
"There seems to be a huge emphasis on ensuring that the media and anyone else can't see what's going on," Cygnus reported.
You do know the internet is totally cut? Hawaii Realty using a star-link connection. You have a similar style to Cybe by the way, you appeared around the time he deleted his account, I am sure it's coincidence. Where are concerned parents at appearances of the Mayor for instance? Do you not see anything fishy in the coverups taking place, fences erected, journalists banned, drones banned, aggressive attitude to journalists asking questions???? Just asking the latter, as you seem to think the fires were natural, checking if you think the reaction of the authorities is normal too...Sometimes it helps to look at the big picture rather than concentrate on minutiae all the time, Cybe did that a lot, fact checkers do the same. I don't see you questioning officialdom or the official story, again this was a Cybe trait.
I am sure the death toll here in Lahaina will end up finally reaching a similar figure to 911, or even exceeding it, the authorities are engaging in similar tactics here as then also. The whole thing stinks.
One thing I am 100% sure about is we are not being told the truth about this fire.
Absolutely.
I've looked and cannot find evidence of first responders. Where was the Hawaiian Coast Guard? Emergency Service helicopters? Oahu is the island where Honolulu is located and is not that far away. Something is seriously amiss and if THEY get away with it, it can happen again anywhere.
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I've been aware he's using starlink a friend gave him access to. The internet is not totally cut off (as evidenced by those who have starlink). Portable mobile hotspots arrived weeks ago as well. Not the same thing as having 24/7 access and all the bandwidth you need, but there you go.
If you believe the internet has been totally cut off (other than Eric's friend's starlink), would you mind telling me how all the other videos we've seen reached our eyes?
I'm sure the flak he was getting for caring about truth and accuracy, and for the service he was providing with his skills to help others notice fake images etc, at the time, is also just coincidence.
Do they all need a sign above their heads saying "Parent"? On top of their grief, they are supposed to deal with zero-evidence gaslighting spread by people, including members of this forum, that their children were abducted? Imagine trying to deal with loss and someone telling you without any evidence that your child may actually have been abducted. Gaslighting, especially when dealing with a lot of painful emotions, can break people's minds.
Do you seriously think parents didn't already go to look for their children? One of them found his youngest son holding their dog, in their home, burnt to a crisp. "Hey, the rest of the parents, hurry up and tell us your own horrible stories, you're making us suspicious here!"
Now that the fences (dust screens) have gone up, and forensic examination taking/going to take place, you don't want drones buzzing about everywhere or people casually stepping into destroyed properties to film. And if debris and ash are going to be moved, you also don't want people walking around in the streets close by, breathing in toxic substances like asbestos and others. "Oh I got sick from breathing in that stuff, you didn't warn me or stop me. I'm going to sue you."
Before the dust screens went up, people were free to do so and did, anyway. Also, they won't really hide much. There are vantage points up the hillside and telescopes and zoom for those who want to see what's going on.
Much of the dust screens appear to be positioned along the highway. Why? Because they don't want to cause road accidents with clouds of dust.
It would be interesting to see specific examples of "journalists banned" and "aggressive attitude to journalists asking questions", if you can highlight some so their cases can be looked at? Those two cops who showed up in HawaiiRealEstate's video seemed very friendly.
Powerlines aren't natural.
Just because you don't see into someone else's mind, does not mean they're not asking questions. The difference being they may not be jumping to conclusions. Conclusions which could then point fingers away from the possible culprit (Hawaiian Electric) and the owners (Blackrock & Vanguard) who happen to be very interested in land-grabbing too.
Including in this thread, as has been observed repeatedly, and has been warned against, to little avail so far.
I think you are the one gaslighting here
I'd suggest having a look back at all the questions you asked, which I took the time to address. And then, stepping outside yourself for a moment, ask yourself what the opinion of someone who has the rudeness to then ignore two simple questions I asked, is worth?
You can always start a list like Cybe...you sound more like him all the time, demanding answers.
How about it is a combination of many factors, earlier in the thread I did mention Smart Meters, these are provided by Hawaiian Electric I assume? Cybe thought that was crazy until I gave him a list of various cases in the past. Full spectrum dominance combined with a total lack of assistance by the authorities, water being turned off etc. Nancy provided a good list of these.
I don't make a habit of continuing to address questions when the same courtesy is not extended to me.
I will look back and try and find them....