What explains flames actually coming into the water? The sense that a continuous bomb was going off? Burning boats 50 yards away from shore?
A very powerful fire, near the shore likely cars/gasoline and very strong winds.
Embers can travel quite a bit further than 50 yards. (40km)
Fire that burns cars must be burning very hot, indeed (see graph below). What account for such heat?
"A vehicle fire can generate heat upwards of 1,500 degrees Fahrenheit." (source)
[Maui Police Chief John] Pelletier said identifying the dead is extremely challenging because “we pick up the remains and they fall apart … When we find our family and our friends, the remains that we’re finding is through a fire that melted metal.” Just two people have been identified so far, he said.
It is not clear what he is referring to. Could be melted car alloys which can be explained by high car-fire temperatures.
All the earmarks? I did not see any. Nothing new in this video but the same debunked arguments.
There are quite a few variables that I believe that we have to look at to determine why some houses were spared.
The ones I can think of:-
Where were the houses? Where was the fire? What was the wind direction? What was the fire direction. What kind of fuels (dried grass, shrubs, trees) on the ground? topology, size of the yard in front of the house.... And of course; what was the house made of.
To jump to the conclusions of DEWs being used before looking into these is not smart.
This has already been covered:
Cars did not melt. Some aluminium/alloy parts of some of them melted. Where was the energy source? I'm reapeating my self but could gasoline in the gastanks be a good energy source, I wonder? Combined with plastics in the car. Are trees needed to feed a fire?
Instead, we find Major General Kenneth Hara, the commanding general of the Hawaii Army National Guard. He stated that he did not know what ignited the fires. But he opined that low humidity and high winds “set the conditions for the wildfires.” He is an army general; what does he know about forest fires?
I would expect a Major General to be quite informed in various such matters. And it's common sense that low humidity and high winds set the confitions for the wildfires.
There is reason to question the general’s claim. The wildfire would only make sense if a forest of trees surrounded the city of Lahaina. That is the first problem with the story. There is no forest near the town. Indeed, the satellite photo below shows that the talle....
Wildfires don't need forests but can also appear in grasslands.
Strangely buildings that have been destroyed allegedly by fire are surrounded by trees untouched by flames
Untouched? False. It's clear by looking at photos that many trees were touched, harmed, scorched, burned by fire.
The article also has this obviously Photoshopped image.
Or is the following image the Photoshopped one? (it has much higher resolution, is that a factor to consider?) Perhaps @A_Freeman has any insight?
(It's taken by Matthew Thayer, source)
You don't find it odd that it was an onshore wind ie coming from the land going to the sea? Thats not how it usually happens on islands, it usually comes from the sea ie offshore.
Try watching the video, its drone footage, shows the whole panorama.
Tree burning from the inside. Kind of how a microwave works....cooking from the inside out.So @cybe.old here is evidence of DEWs .
I will give you that one...looks too perfect.
Well it is not a dead tree as can clearly be seen by the living foliage on its branches above so we can rule that one out.
Can we really rule that out?
Can not trees in way be both alive and dead at the same time? Some parts of it dead and dry whilst other parts still have living foliage?
We don't know if this tree was like that. And if it was partially hollow. If so it would be just a matter of embers landing inside it, or on the ground next to it and spread inside it where very dry kindling-materials might exist
Unlikely IMHO with that amount of live foliage, but no amount of evidence will convince you anyway, that's not my aim.
We're not seeing much of the top of the trees and the foliage.
However, hollow trees often have plenty of live foliage as can be seen in these examples.
You will have to post convincing non-debunkable evidence to convince me.
Do you still think this burning tree is convincing DEW evidence after we've come to the conclusion that
- trees can be hollow,
- trees can have alot of dead dry material on/in them
- hollow trees can have plenty of foliage?
How do you now decide whether it was microwave DEW och a hollow flammable tree?
BONUS:
Here's a hollow tree in my backyard. Tons of foliage.
Another reason for trees burning on the inside is lightning strikes:-
No DEW proof in this one either. I think it is quite untruthful to mix the laser footage with material from Lahaina.
The creator of it has also gone in an edited the video, adding PEOPLE and HOMES.
So if it is lasers and not microwaves would they work like shown in this video? Have we seen holes like this in cars?
How many lasers would there be? Would the laser go from car to car and house to house to ignite them? How long would it shine on a car and how would it become so hot that it melts metals?
Thank you! That's the second one I've gotten, I believe. A blind hen finds a piece of grain once in a while too!
How about our great hollow tree discussion? Did I get that one too, please?
No.
2 more than I have got from you. Not that I am seeking your approval. Of course you would put that down to always being correct.
Look at the evidence of the destruction, it is not a forest wildfire or grassland for that matter.