Anyway Cybe you have 1 more major conspiracy to piss all over and your work will be complete, I am talking about 9-11. You have already made NASA off-limits. This thread will go the same way no doubt….At that point I won’t bother contributing here as it won’t be a truthers forum, it will just be your own Ego’s echo chamber…..
And of course one big question is this: Is a person automatically a pro-zionist etc etc if one does not immediately believe in holo-hoax theories or in any way defends the "official" narrative?
You suggested that not I. The Nazis and the Zionists co-operated as you well know - the Havaara Agreement.
No, I did not come across any. But would you honestly expect there to be any films though? Why would they film something that’s supposed to be a secret operation during a war? It seems counter intuitive in my opinion.
AI says:
No footage exists because Nazis enforced strict secrecy around extermination camps, destroying records; unlike Einsatzgruppen, gas chambers were hidden operations.
Regarding Einsatzgruppen footage:
“Rare authentic footage exists, notably from Liepaja, Latvia (1941), secretly filmed by German soldier Reinhard Wiener contrary to orders. It shows Einsatzgruppen and collaborators executing Jews near a trench/lighthouse. Available via USHMM Holocaust Encyclopedia.
Additional color home movies and still photos by Germans (e.g., Vinnitsa, Ukraine executions) appear in documentaries like Michael Prazan's Einsatzgruppen: The Death Brigades.
No widespread official Nazi filming; some photos used as evidence in trials.”
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Apparently, there was no single “main” gas chamber. Instead:
At Auschwitz concentration camp there were multiple gas chambers over time:
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Auschwitz I (main camp) – including Crematorium I
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Auschwitz II–Birkenau – the large extermination facilities (Crematoria II, III, IV, and V)
Most mass killings occurred at Birkenau, not in the Auschwitz I crematorium that is often shown in photos today.
Crematorium I (Auschwitz I)
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Originally built as a crematorium with a morgue (1940).
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Converted in 1941 into a gas chamber.
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Used primarily in 1941–1942.
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Later converted back into an air-raid shelter in 1944.
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After the war, the Polish museum reconstructed it to resemble its wartime appearance.
About the door claim:
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The original homicidal gas chamber door opened outward, not inward.
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It had a small peephole covered by a metal grille, not a simple fragile glass window.
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An inward-opening door would have been impractical because bodies piled near the entrance would block it.
Some confusion arises because:
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The building was altered during and after the war.
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Certain reconstruction elements are not 100% original.
However, documentation and testimony from SS personnel confirm that the homicidal gas chamber door opened outward and was reinforced.
Birkenau Gas Chambers (Crematoria II & III)
These were the primary killing facilities.
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Underground undressing rooms and gas chambers.
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Doors were heavy, airtight, and opened outward.
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Equipped with peepholes protected by metal grilles.
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Zyklon B was introduced through roof openings.
German construction documents, correspondence, and orders for gas-tight doors survive and specify reinforced designs.
Where the “Flimsy Wooden Door” Claim Comes From
This claim typically appears in Holocaust denial arguments. It relies on:
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Confusing reconstruction elements with original features.
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Misidentifying a postwar museum door.
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Ignoring surviving German documents ordering gas-tight doors with peepholes.
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Ignoring testimony from SS personnel and camp staff.
There is no credible historical evidence that the main homicidal gas chambers had a fragile, inward-opening wooden door with a simple glass pane.
Historical Consensus
The mass murder at Auschwitz is supported by:
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German construction documents
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Nazi correspondence
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Transport records
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Physical ruins
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Aerial photography
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Perpetrator confessions
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Survivor testimony
The claim about a flimsy inward-opening door does not align with this body of evidence.
That’s according to ChatGPT. According to Grok:
Doors were gas-tight (some wood, as in disinfection chambers), opened outwards in key crematoria to clear bodies; locked and guarded, preventing escape. Auschwitz toll revised from Soviet overestimate of 4m to 1.1-1.5m based on evidence; total Holocaust 6m includes all sites, unchanged.
There may not be much point to continue it though, if using AI to research is seen as a reason to disqualify the information. I’ve not personally been there, as surely most people haven’t either. But there does appear to be some potential holes in the claims made by people who claim it didn’t happen. I would be happy not to debate about it further here, as there may be little point in trying to convince one another. Different opinions exist based on what information a person has been exposed to and how they interpret it.
How did they ventilate the rooms afterwards? Did they have air extractors?
Zyklon B has a boiling point of 25 deg C ie when it becomes a gas vapour, how did they maintain this temperature in winter in Poland?
https://www.stormfront.org/revision/ff5zyklonb.html
https://www.renegadetribune.com/zyklon-b-for-the-killing-of-human-beings/
No idea.
Please don’t post any stormfront links here though. That’s a horrible site..
Well unfortunately it is only sites like that sometimes that haven’t been censored or wiped. Its the nature of the beast. It came up in my search. I don’t have a problem with using their info.
Probably a “honeypot” site, if I had to take a wild guess at it.
Most likely. Probably run by the CIA.
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Obviously to counter the deniers, the Auschwitz authorites have got their act together to spout counter-propaganda since this Documentary was made by David Cole, contrast your confident assertions with those of Dr Piper who actually ran the place back then, ie it was his life’s work.
Why Was The 1985 Ernst Zündel Trial A Disaster For The Holocaust Narrative?
Zündel’s Testimony and Verdict
“Zündel at the end of his trial was questioned about his views of the “Holocaust.” His testimony indicated that he had studied the subject of the “Holocaust” quite extensively.
For example, Douglas Christie showed Zündel a picture of the alleged gas chamber at Auschwitz I, with its flimsy door leading into the gas chamber. Christie then showed Zündel a picture of an American gas chamber used to kill people, with its massive hinges and airtight seal of the gas chamber. Christie asked Zündel, “What is the purpose in comparison of those items?” Zündel replied:
Because it shows the tremendous care that needs to be taken in the construction and the very strong build of these doors that go to gas chambers that are used to kill people, and it becomes apparent that no such doors were installed in what are today being shown in gas chambers in Auschwitz I that are allegedly used to kill people.34
Zündel in his testimony effectively proved that the alleged gas chamber at Auschwitz I shown to millions of tourists could not have been used to murder people.”
“The jury found Zündel not guilty of a charge of willfully promoting false news regarding an essay he had written entitled The West, War and Islam. This essay declared that Zionists had created the lie of the “Holocaust” to blackmail Germany into bankrolling the building of Israel and conspiring with bankers, communists, and Freemasons to establish a one-world slave society.35 “
So Cybe do you understand this was a criminal trial??? What you produced with the help of AI was total nonsense and counter to evidence produced in court. It was totally made up lies….If what you say was true you could be sure it would have been brought up in court…..the flimsy door was the evidence of the supposed real door, check out the photos. Please provide more credible info on this subject in future and not AI fantasy.
Cybe, show me forensic evidence of the Holocaust. Its a trick question as none has ever been produced in a court of law, perhaps AI forgot to mention this to you. Piles of shoes, hearsay don’t count as evidence. If you can you will have done better than all the Jewish Holocaust scholars. I await your next AI submission with interest.
They had a Theater, swimming pool and football fields too….
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https://ihr.org/journal/v19n3p20_radar-html
Treblinka Ground Radar Examination Finds No Trace of Mass Graves
https://www.unz.com/pub/jhr__treblinka-ground-radar-examination-finds-no-trace-of-mass-graves/
In seventy years, no forensic study proving the existence and operation of the “Nazi gas chambers”!
Museum Of Genocide Director Admits No ‘Forensic Evidence’ To Support Claim That 1.5 Million Jews Killed At Auschwitz
Could be interpreted either way. If you were diabolical (Adolf Hitler was the Anti-Christ) then that would make it more deceptive as it would fit the look of it just being a nice place of work, i.e. camouflage.
“No precise total tonnage of human remains and ash from Nazi mass graves and extermination camps has been comprehensively calculated or documented.
Estimates from major sites:
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Auschwitz-Birkenau: ~1,100 tonnes of ash recovered or identified (from crematoria pits and dumping areas).
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Treblinka: Operation 1005 burned ~700,000–900,000 bodies; surviving ash/remains estimated several hundred tonnes.
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Belzec, Sobibor, Chelmno: Similar large-scale burning; ash volumes in the hundreds of tonnes each.
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Babi Yar and other Einsatzgruppen sites: Partial exhumation/burning; remains rarely quantified by weight.
Overall, identified/recovered remains and ash almost certainly exceed 2,000–3,000 tonnes, but the vast majority of the ~6 million victims were reduced to ash and scattered, dumped in rivers, or remain undisturbed. No complete inventory exists.
Over 2,000 mass graves related to the Holocaust have been documented across Europe, primarily in:
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Poland (e.g., around Auschwitz, Treblinka, Sobibór, Bełżec, Chełmno, Majdanek)
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Ukraine (Babi Yar near Kyiv, thousands of sites in former Pale of Settlement areas)
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Belarus (Maly Trostenets, Bronna Góra, hundreds of rural killing sites)
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Lithuania (Ponary/Paneriai near Vilnius, Ninth Fort in Kaunas)
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Latvia (Rumbula, Bikernieki)
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Russia (Pushkin, Liozno, other western regions)
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Baltic states and former Yugoslavia (Jasenovac in Croatia)
Most were execution sites by Einsatzgruppen or local collaborators; many at or near death camps. The Yahad-In Unum organization has identified ~2,000 in Eastern Europe alone as of 2024. Total likely exceeds 3,000 including smaller unmarked pits.
916 Holocaust mass grave sites have been identified in Ukraine, primarily by Yahad-In Unum through eyewitness testimonies and forensic evidence.
Yahad-In Unum has identified 916 Holocaust mass grave sites in Ukraine, per 2022 estimates. Earlier figures (e.g., ~700 in 2014, 495 post-war) were lower.
Approximately 2,000–2,400 grams (2–2.4 kg) of ash per adult victim, based on modern cremation averages and Holocaust-era estimates (e.g., ~640 g in one Auschwitz survivor account, but typically higher; often ~2 kg used in mass grave calculations like Sobibór area discoveries).
Victims were often emaciated (lower body weight → less ash); includes bone fragments ground to powder.”
According to that there are many sited that have been found that still remain. All fake?
The allies also found massive piles of emaciated bodies in forests where they had not yet been cremated, captured in pictures (that I have seen, but wont post here). No AI existed in those days to fabricate photos, so the unfinished business they discovered was real.