This sounds just a bit too fantastical to be believable just like the USS Cook incident in 2014.
Yeah I saw your NYT/Quora evidence.....didn't bother investigating further. You have seen the recent MSM Pizza-Gate debunker who went to prison for Child porn, I take It? Now I never believed the MSM debunk on that either. Will be the same with the USS Donald Cook alleged debunk. The MSM's job is to control the narrative, not to provide truthful information.
PROTOCOL 12
CONTROL OF THE PRESS
Masonic "freedom" – Control of printing and publishing – Vishnu, idol of the Press
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The word "freedom," which can be interpreted in various ways, is defined by us as follows -
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Freedom is the right to do that which the law allows. This interpretation of the word will at the proper time be of service to us, because all freedom will thus be in our hands, since the laws will abolish or create only that which is desirable for us, according to the aforesaid program.
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We shall deal with the press in the following way: what is the part played by the press to-day? It serves to excite and inflame those passions which are needed for our purpose, or else it serves selfish ends of parties. It is often vapid; unjust; mendacious; and the majority of the public have not the slightest idea what ends the press really serves. We shall saddle and bridle it with a tight curb: we shall do the same also with all productions of the printing press, for where would be the sense of getting rid of the attacks of the press if we remain targets for pamphlets and books? The produce of publicity, which nowadays is a source of heavy expense owing to the necessity of censoring it, will be turned by us into a very lucrative source of income to our State: we shall law on it a special stamp tax and require deposits of caution-money before permitting the establishment of any organ of the press or of printing offices; these will then have to guarantee our government against any kind of attack on the part of the press. For any attempt to attack us, if such still be possible, we shall inflict fines without mercy. Such measures as stamp tax, deposit of caution-money and fines secured by these deposits, will bring in a huge income to the government. It is true that party organs might not spare money for the sake of publicity, but these we shall shut up at the second attack upon us. No one shall with impunity lay a finger on the aureole of our government infallibility. The pretext for stopping any publication will be the alleged plea that it is agitating the public mind without occasion or justification. I beg you to note that among those making attacks upon us will also be organs established by us, but they will attack exclusively points that we have pre-determined to alter.
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Not a single announcement will reach the public without our control. Even now this is already being attained by us inasmuch as all news items are received by a few agencies, in whose offices they are focused from all parts of the world. These agencies will then be already entirely ours and will give publicity only to what we dictate to them.
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If already now we have contrived to possess ourselves of the minds of the goy communities to such an extent that they all come near, looking upon the events of the world through the coloured glasses of those spectacles we are setting astride their noses; if already now there is not a single State where there exist for us any barriers to admittance into what goy stupidity calls State secrets: what will our positions be then, when we shall be acknowledged supreme lords of the world in the person of our king of all the world...
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Let us turn again to the future of the printing press. Every one desirous of being a publisher, librarian, or printer, will be obliged to provide himself with the diploma instituted therefore, which, in case of any fault, will be immediately impounded. With such measures the instrument of thought will become an educative means in the hands of our government, which will no longer allow the mass of the nation to be led astray in by-ways and fantasies about the blessings of progress. Is there any one of us who does not know that these phantom blessings are the direct roads to foolish imaginings, which give birth to anarchical relations of men among themselves and towards authority, because progress, or rather the idea of progress, has introduced the conception of every kind of emancipation, but has failed to establish its limits.…All the so-called liberals are anarchists, if not in fact, at any rate in thought. Every one of them is hunting after phantoms of freedom, and falling exclusively into license, that is, into the anarchy of protest for the sake of protest.…
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We turn to the periodical press. We shall impose on it, as on all printed matter, stamp taxes per sheet and deposits of caution-money, and books of less than 30 sheets will pay double. We shall reckon them as pamphlets in order, on the one hand, to reduce the number of magazines, which are the worst form of printed poison, and, on the other, in order that this measure may force writers into such lengthy productions that they will be little read, especially as they will be costly. At the same time what we shall publish ourselves to influence mental development; in the direction laid down for our profit; will be cheap and will be read voraciously. The tax will bring vapid literary ambitions within bounds and the liability to penalties will make literary men dependent upon us. And if there should be any found who are desirous of writing against us, they will not find any person eager to print their productions. Before accepting any production for publication the publisher or printer will have to apply to the authorities for permission to do so. Thus we shall know beforehand of all tricks preparing against us and shall nullify them by getting ahead with explanations on the subject treated of.
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Literature and journalism are two of the most important educative forces, and therefore our government will become proprietor of the majority of the journals. This will neutralise the injurious influence of the privately-owned press and will put us in possession of a tremendous influence upon the public mind....If we give permits for ten journals, we shall ourselves found thirty, and so on in the same proportion. This, however, must in no wise be suspected by the public. For which reason all journals published by us will be of the most opposite, in appearance, tendencies and opinions, thereby creating confidence in us and bringing over to us quite unsuspicious opponents, who will thus fall into our trap and be rendered harmless.
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In the front rank will stand organs of an official character. They will always stand guard over our interests, and therefore their influence will be comparatively insignificant.
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In the second rank will be the semi-official organs, whose part it will be to attack the tepid and indifferent.
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In the third rank we shall set up our own; to all appearance, off position; which, in at least one of its organs, will present what looks like the very antipothesis to us. Our real opponents at heart will accept this simulated opposition as their own and will show us their cards.
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All our newspapers will be of all possible complexions – aristocratic, republican, revolutionary, even anarchical – for so long, of course, as the constitution exists....Like the Indian idol "Vishnu" they will have a hundred hands, and every one of them will have a finger on any one of the public opinions as required. When a pulse quickens these hands will lead opinion in the direction of our aims, for an excited patient loses all power of judgement and easily yields to suggestion. Those fools who will think they are repeating the opinion of a newspaper of their own camp will be repeating our opinion or any opinion that seems desirable for us. In the vain belief that they are following the organ of their party they will, in fact, follow the flag which we hang out for them.
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In order to direct our newspaper militia in this sense we must take special and minute care in organising this matter. Under the title of central department of the press we shall institute literary gatherings at which our agents will, without attracting attention, issue the orders and watchwords of the day. By discussing and controverting, but always superficially, without touching the essence of the matter, our organs will carry on a sham fight fusillade with the official newspapers solely for the purpose of giving occasion for us to express ourselves more fully than could well be done from the outset in official announcements, whenever, of course, that is to our advantage.
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These attacks upon us will also serve another purpose, namely, that our subjects will be convinced of the existence of full freedom of speech and so give our agents an occasion to affirm that all organs which oppose us are empty babblers, since they are incapable of finding any substantial objections to our orders.
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Methods of organisation like these, imperceptible to the public eye but absolutely sure, are the best calculated to succeed in bringing the attention and the confidence of the public to the side of our government. Thanks to such methods we shall be in a position, as from time to time may be required, to excite or to tranquillise the public mind on political questions, to persuade or to confuse, printing now truth, now lies, facts or their contradictions, according as they may be well or ill received, always very cautiously feeling our ground before stepping upon it....We shall have a sure triumph over our opponents; since they will not have at their disposition organs of the press in which they can give full and final expression to their views; owing to the aforesaid methods of dealing with the press. We shall not even need to refute them except very superficially.
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Trial shots like these, fired by us in the third rank of our press, in case of need, will be energetically refuted by us in our semi-official organs.
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Even nowadays, already, to take only the French press, there are forms which reveal masonic solidarity in acting on the watchword: all organs of the press are bound together by professional secrecy; like the augurs of old, not one of their numbers will give away the secret of his sources of information, unless it be resolved to make announcement of them. Not one journalist will venture to betray this secret, for not one of them is ever admitted to practice literature unless his whole past has some disgraceful sore or other....These sores would be immediately revealed. So long as they remain the secret of a few, the prestige of the journalist attacks the majority of the country – the mob follow after him with enthusiasm.
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Our calculations are especially extended to the provinces. It is indispensable for us to inflame there those hopes and impulses with which we could at any moment fall upon the capital, and we shall represent to the capitals that these expressions are the independent hopes and impulses of the provinces. Naturally, the source of them will be always one and the same – ours. We require that, until such a time as we are in the plenitude of power, the capitals should find themselves stifled by the provincial opinion of the nations, i.e., of a majority arranged by our agentur. What we need is that; at the psychological moment; the capitals should not be in a position to discuss an accomplished fact for the simple reason, if for no other, that it has been accepted by the public opinion of a majority in the provinces.
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When we are in the period of the new regime; prior to the transition to that of the assumption of our full sovereignty; we must not admit any revelations by the press of any form of public dishonesty; it is necessary that the new regime should be thought to have so perfectly contented everybody that even criminality has disappeared...Cases of the manifestation of criminality should remain known only to their victims and to chance witnesses – no more.
Ok, let's just blindly trust Russian media then
Not necessarily, but it is widely acknowledged that Russia has a lead in EW. It is one of the areas they focused on along with Anti-Missile defence systems. The US focused on areas like stealth technology, aircraft carriers etc. I am sure at the top the same Cabal control the Russians as well as the USA.
Battle moment of Russian O Group to destroys Ukrainian Azov in Kremennaya
Battle moment of Russian O Group to destroys Ukrainian Azov in Kremennaya
Well, You Asked For IT! RUSSIA Has Deployed The World's Most Powerful Artillery Brigades To UKRAINE!
RUSSIA Has Deployed The World's Most Powerful Artillery Brigades To UKRAINE!
You saw them. Does "didn't bother investigating further" mean that you didn't read them?
Let's compare some of the USS Cook 2014 incident materials:
Often linked to article on Voltairenet: What spooked the USS Donald Cook so much in the Black Sea? starts off with quite a statement:
The State Department acknowledged that the crew of the destroyer USS Donald Cook has been gravely demoralized ever since their vessel was flown over in the Black Sea by a Russian Sukhoi-24 (Su-24 ) fighter jet which carried neither bombs nor missiles but only an electronic warfare device.
Wow, the State Department has even acknowledged it. Incredible. The crew was gravely demoralized. Incredible...
However, it doesn't make any sense that The State Department would admit something like that. And the source of this claim is...? missing...
...according to several media reports, completely demoralized its crew so much so that the Pentagon issued a protest
Where are these several media reports?
If we read the protest to see if there are any indications in it that it was made because it demoralized crew in it... we see that there is nothing about demoralizing it's crew in this,
Then we have:
As the Russian jet approached the US vessel, the electronic device disabled all radars, control circuits, systems, information transmission, etc. on board the US destroyer.
So we're lead to believe the Russians have equipped this single jet fighter with something that disabled not only the radar but also control circuits (whatever that means), systems (what ever that means) and information transmission and etc (whatever that means) onboard the destroyer? Sounds quite incredible.
And of course this action would be classified as an attack.
Since that incident, which the Atlanticist media have carefully covered up despite the widespread reactions sparked among defense industry experts,
I wonder what exactly is meant by "carefully covered up"? Where are these widespread rections among defence industry experts (who?)
According to some specialized media, 27 sailors from the USS Donald Cook requested to be relieved from active service.
Some specialized media? Sources?
The Quora discussion I linked to from another thread sounds more probable to me than Russia demonstrating (and showing their hand too early) their nearly supernatural capabilities to the world.
Standard Cold War practice.
The Sukhoi buzzed in to provoke the USS Donald Cook’s captain to flare up everything he’s got. This was done in hope that the captain got provoked enough and flared it’s AA defense system and a Russian EW aircraft (either that Su-24 which could be modified to have all sort of EW equipment or another EW aircraft flying secretly somewhere monitoring all this) could record it for analysis (i.e response time, electronic signature, radar strength , etc).
The Donald Cook’s captain however wasn’t going to give the Russian aircraft the satisfaction of recording the electronic data of a modern US destroyer so he wisely shut down some or most of the destroyer’s electronics/go to radio silence/EMCON (or just simply do nothing) so that the Russian got almost zero useful data.
Russia, which was pretty disappointed however saw the opportunity, to spin a fake story of how a single Su-24 could “jammed”/”shut down” a US Navy destroyer so bad that around 20 enlisted apparently “resign” as soon as they called port.
...First, US enlisted personnel can never resign. They’re on a contract that ends on a specific date....
...More importantly: Electronic warfare and jamming is often about power. Megawatts of power. An Aegis ship has enough power to light up a small city. This is not an exaggeration. A city of 80,000 people consumes about 45Mw of power. The LM 2500 engine produces about 30Mw of power and the ship has 2 of them dedicated to producing electricity.
The engines required to produce this power are the size of a shipping container weigh almost more than an SU-27 by themselves. This is without taking into consideration the generator and fuel that you need to use to get this power. Anyone who believes than an airplane can “fry the electronics” of a modern warship that can likely produce 100 times the power that the airplane can produce simply has no grasp of electronics or energy. To put things in perspective if an aegis radar focuses a lot of it’s energy on one narrow spot in the sky, they can actually cook the pilot and electronics of an aircraft much like being inside a microwave oven. I’ve been in a helicopter approaching an aegis radar equipped ship and the pilots were really unhappy that the radar facing them was still operating at normal power. Think about the lead lined clothing they protect you with when you’re getting an x-ray*. I was likely having my cells messed with for a few seconds. Cancer causing anyone? Anyone who tells you that an airplane has a suitable counter to this kind of power is either a liar or a buffoon with no real grasp of reality....
The quora discussions have more interesting insights....
I don't see any problems in the "MSM debunk" by the Atlantic Council's Digital Forensic Research Lab, here (other link than the NYTimes link I linked to previously). Without attacking this messenger do you see any problems with it, please?
And this propaganda piece that Putin flew over the USS Eisenhower and attacked it with their secret weapon to disable it of course has no credible sources. Almost sounds like something out of North Korea.
"a powerful wave of electromagnetic waves was recorded"
(by whom?)
"this anomaly was also recorded by Iranian warships"
(ohh.. source?)
"it is reported that the onboard computers of ships within the radius or 2-3 km were buggy for several minutes"
Oh so these Russian jets flew that close to the Eisenhower and these other ships? Quite close. Where can we read this report?
"surprisingly after this incident the American fighter-jets onboard the nuclear powered aircraft carrier Dwight Eisenhower did not take to the air for 24 hours"
Wow, sounds incredible... source for this claim?
Are we just to trust this robot voice borzzikman and his claims?
Is this another attempt to thread jack again, over a decade old incident??? If I met you in real life I would ignore you.
Thread jack again?
In the subject Russia Vs NATO; is a 10 year old incident too old to discuss, please?
I brought up the subject as I was looking into this similar new Eisenhower incident.
Previously I had not investigated the USS Cook 2014 incident further but for some reason blindly believed in the Voltairenet and other articles...
This is real life (well, twh.pdf readers might disagree) and power fantasies will not help you in this discussion.
In real life I would totally ignore sheeple bringing up MSM articles and fact checker sites as evidence, it is like pissing into the wind.
And you are so sure I will engage with you? I won't waste my time feeding your attention seeking ego. Will be another one to add to your list....must be a long list by now.
Some more sensible analysis: Russia Claims Its Bomber Jammed U.S. Destroyer
Russian Engineers Received A Captured German 'Leopard 2A4' TANK In Absolutely Perfect Condition!
Russian Engineers Received A Captured German 'Leopard 2A4' TANK In Absolutely...
Russian soldiers planted another flag on the edge position of Marinka
Russian soldiers planted another flag on the edge position of Marinka
Last night, Ukrainian military facilities throughout the country came under another massive attack of Russian drones and missiles. Ukrainian sources reported attacks of Russian Geran UAVs in the Mykolaiv, Kirovograd and Odessa regions. Russian drones also attacked targets in the town of Snegirevka in the Kherson region.
On the morning of December 11, Russian missiles attacked the capital of the country. The local Ukrainian authorities confirmed that hypersonic Kinzhal missiles struck strategic military infrastructure facilities. However, Kiev did not clarify that the target was the notorious US Patriot anti-aircraft system deployed on the eastern bank of the Dnieper in the city.
The Ukrainian air defense forces overslept this sudden attack judging by how the sirens sounded only after the targets were hit. Even if the attack had been noticed in advance, the Patriot system would hardly have been able to repel it. On May 16, in the same city of Kiev, the Patriot system was filmed firing all its ammunition, 32 missiles, but failing to stop Russian Kinzhals. According to the Russian Ministry of Defense, in that attack, the radar control system and five launchers were destroyed. The results of today’s attack on the US Patriot system are yet to be revealed.
The Ukrainian military is so afraid of Russian Kinzhals that when its MiG-31K carriers take off in Russia, they declare an air alert throughout the country. That is, of course, only if they notice.
Meanwhile, the commander of the Ukrainian Ground Forces, Alexander Syrsky, officially confirmed the difficult situation on the Eastern front in Ukraine. Currently, Russian troops continue offensive operations along the entire front line, which makes the situation extremely difficult for the defending Ukrainian servicemen. The Ukrainian military is forced to strengthen its defenses and save ammunition.
The Ukrainian military recognizes the loss of positions in Marinka, noting that their positions are worse in Avdeevka, in the area of Bakhmut. The deterioration of the strategic Ukrainian positions in the Donbass is a direct consequence of the failure of Kiev’s counteroffensive, where the General Staff of Ukraine lost operational and strategic reserves. After the months-long bloody battles in the South, they urgently needed to strengthen their positions in the East and hastily remove entire units from the Zaporozhye area to throw them in to different positions in the Donbass. As a result, the Russians keep advancing simultaneously near Donetsk, Bakmhut, Kupyansk as well as on the Zaporozhie front, weakened by Kiev’s short-sighted strategy.
Loitering drone takes out Ukrainian equipment on the right bank of the Dnieper
Loitering drone taken out Ukrainian equipment on the right bank of the Dnieper
The WAR Is LOST: 'The U.S. Is Preparing UKRAINE For Its Final Journey'
The WAR Is LOST: 'The U.S. Is Preparing UKRAINE For Its Final Journey'
While Zelensky travels the world in search of money and weapons, and Washington allegedly counts the latest aid packages for Ukraine, Europe continues attempts to support the life of the dying Kiev regime.
The Daily Telegraph stated that several European leaders are calling on Britain to lead a new coalition of countries that will provide military assistance to the war-torn country. In Europe, interest in supporting Ukraine in its conflict with Russia is sharply decreasing. Germany and France, which previously were leaders in providing aid to Kiev, have now lost their positions and are not seeking to restore them. The proposal to transfer the leadership to the UK could be a new impetus for the war in Ukraine.
So, to strengthen Ukraine’s maritime capability, the United Kingdom and Norway are going to create a new coalition that will supply ships and cargo vehicles to Kiev. In addition, the member countries promise to provide long-term support to Ukraine, including military training to improve security on the Black Sea.
The British Ministry of Defense has already promised to transfer two Sandown-type minesweepers to Ukraine. These ships are designed to demine the coastline and ensure the safe passage of large vessels. London also hopes that this will help Kiev strengthen its ability to operate at sea and increase exports of Ukrainian products.
The vessels will be purchased by Ukraine through the UK export credit agency – UK Export Finance.
Meanwhile, at the end of November, France began the transfer of four FPB 98 MKI patrol boats for the Ukrainian State Border Service. The contract worth 136.5 million euros was signed by the National Border Guard Service of Ukraine with the French company Ocea back in 2019.
On November 24, the UHL Fusion cargo ship with four patrol boats on board headed to the Black Sea.
On December 4, it reappeared in the Bosphorus Strait, still with its cargo. Real-time vessel tracking sites confirm that Fusion arrived at the port of Constanta on the same day. Considering the risks, four patrol boats were unloaded in Romania. Then the Ukrainian crews will probably take over the controls and transfer them to Ukraine on their own.
Earlier, Kiev received four more French boats delivered in May and August this year to the Romanian port of Constanta, after which they were moved to Izmail. In total, according to the contract, the French should supply Ukraine with 20 patrol boats.
Currently, Kiev does not have the opportunity to transfer boats to the Dnieper River, as previously planned. However, they also risk becoming an easy target for Russian strikes on the Danube.