@Cybe The post above the one you are pointing out is one that I posted and it is from the same source called Peculiar Stories. I suspected it might be AI generated at the time, but was based on a real occurrence, but since, after seeing the Rabbi video, I am prone to believe it is AI generated from start to finish and fictional like a fictional novel written to bring a message to the public, but the characters are fictional. In some cases there may be a resemblance to an actual individual, but it remains fiction nevertheless. The Rabbi video on @ThePrisoner channel does say "We cannot verify this so we leave readers to decide its authenticity" in the description. Unfortunately, that statement is not in the description of the source video as far as I can tell. If it is AI generated and fictional which it appears to be, it would be appropriate for Peculiar Stories to indicate it as fiction (if it is). Your concern about AI generated fictional videos being portrayed as evidence of real events is legitimate and is a matter of concern when it is not labelled as such. Books are labelled fiction or non-fiction and the same should apply to visual stories which these videos appear to be. One would have to contact the content creator to know for sure and I have not done that. Have you?
I came across a more genuine looking channel which might have even been what this AI channel is trying to copy:-
https://www.youtube.com/@AfterlifeVisions-s8q/
Sounds like something like plausible deniability.
No. Based on the data points I have on this I'm over 95% that the whole channel is just AI generated stuff.
The phone number on the Youtube Channel is in Ethiopia +251903333349 and email address [email protected] which also appears to have Ethiopian connections. Perhaps they could be contacted and let them produce [even] more real content? People's real personal miracles from direct contact with Father, to start with...
@DG-Truther-Videos @NancyDrewberry @Cybe
I was aware of the Rabbi NDE posted on Truthseeker. It was a really nice story, but I wondered if it were true, because it had a ring of both true and fiction, plus it sounded like a paid narrator - which wasn't necessarily bad, because he had a nice voice.
I could not verify any details the person named Ezra presented. Thus, I looked into it further and found there are multiple channels on YT that uploaded these types of stories - like Peculiar Stories as mentioned, and Lunar Essence, Timeless Wonders, NDE outlook, etc. One channel had the narrator in the bottom left corner, an American-Asian.
A channel called "Second Chances" clearly says some are fiction:
The stories shared on this channel are a mix of fictional narratives and personal accounts sent by individuals who claim these experiences are real. Our goal is to provide both entertainment and educational insights, exploring profound themes of life, faith, and transformation. Please enjoy the journey with an open mind, and remember that every story is shared for thought-provoking purposes, without making definitive claims about the afterlife."
Channels that use these videos need to qualify them or have a disclaimer like Second Chances, but sometimes that doesn't translate when the same video is uploaded by others, or multiple similar stories are generated.
The Ezra "toaster"-story is the same as Jacob Stein and David Goldstein, with some alternations on details.
But the toaster story isn't the only one that is generated multiple times. There is a car-accident story for Eliahu Moshe Ben David and Eliza Yashua Ben Avna, with some minor changes in the script.
Just scroll this rabbi-nde search on YT - https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query="rabbi"+"nde"
Many have a running theme, a well-respected rabbi, with mentors, a wife; and once leaving their body, they encounter Jesus, and sometimes their mentors in hell. Then, they point to Isaiah 53 and Psalms 22.
I think Messianic Jews use these scriptures to help Jews understand Jesus was the Messiah. There are many Messianic Jewish organizations and one of their slogans of sorts is "the most Jewish thing a Jew can do is accept Jesus as Saviour."
These stories, whether real or not, are testimonials to help people find Jesus. Should they be creating fake stories though?
There are real ones out there about Jews finding Jesus, or helping others find Him:
Two examples (I really liked both):
Rabbi Loren Jacobs, searched and found God (Jesus) through reading the Bible | Jewish Testimonies
The Forbidden Chapter: Isaiah 53 in the Hebrew Bible
And There are also real stories of so-called rabbis finding Jesus:
This one had a vision of Jesus - Jewish Rabbi recalls his life-changing vision of Jesus in Heaven.
To me at least, I think stories should be verified or qualified on DG, even if the YT channel doesn't do it. They might all sound nice, but are they true?
And perhaps there was a person who had a toaster-experience, but now it's developed into generated stories, whether it's AI or someone who is pro-efficient in video-software.
In light of these rabbi-jesus stories coming into focus, I see an opportunity.
Where can we go from here?
Contact all these Messianic Jewish organizations and give the good news of His Second Return or TWH. Leave comments on all the YT videos about TWH. There is also The TRUTH about Rabbis; Priests and Imams to share with them.
Go Fish.
We're currently at the time where AI generated voice sounds about 99.1% real and only by listening closely for a long time and catching pronounciation and other peculiarities / bugs can they be detected by human beings (probably much better detected by software/AI).
What happens when there are hundreds of these kinds of channels, or thousands?
We will see more and more content farms pop up as more and more stories of successful ones and the knowledge of how to create them spreads. It might become a national past-time in countries in Africa or Asia, I suspect, similarly to the Nigerian 419 phenomena. Another popular thing that I now have on my FB because of the algoritm is fake Mark Harmon pages that scam old ladies. FB won't take them down. There's hundreds of them and thousands of old ladies believe they are in contact with the Hollywood actor Mark Harmon... Or Keivn Costner (who for some reason is asking them for money in the form of Apple gift cards)
All this is becoming easier and more automated. Now/very soon you can just type in what you want and an AI agent (a bit like a factory line connecting many AIs) spits out content to a Youtube channel.
And perhaps my idea int he message above yours?
And perhaps when people look into these channels they will find this discussion....
These are all AI generated. Images, voices and stories. I was not able to find NDE outlook or the one with the narrator in the bottom left corner. But I do see that these AI generated ones appear to be striving to copy a handful of real looking channels. In a few months or so it will be possible to mimic their look too (moving video, realistic looking people etc)
These stories, whether real or not, APPEAR to be testimonials. And if they are generated by AI how can one know what is being said in them and whether the logic, lesson in them is Good, leading to Jesus or not? We do not know the motives behind the channels. What is they are for instance a part of Project Bluebeam and subtly shift the narrative when they have enough followers?
Looking at the thumbnails and titles we see that the number 1 quality that the creators of these videos are striving for, is CLICK BAIT... As many views as possible. -> more $$$
You might be right about the possibly for them to make money, because why else would they put so many up. I don't have a YT and I don't know all the ends and outs of making money off click-bait, subscriptions; don't care that much to know either.
I just care that we all make an effort to verify things before posting on DG. Less is more so to speak. Less posts, more quality - higher-value content. I must admit I spent hours researching the Ezra post to try to verify it. I wanted it to be true, but something wasn't right about it. Another person I shared my findings with wondered if they were AI, and you have determined they would be easy to do with AI.
Since this thread is about NDE, let's all make an effort to verify them before passing them along. There are plenty of real ones, or ones that can be verified. Plus, do the stories support DG goals, some might not.
You could have asked me and gotten a well researched and sourced analysis in about 15 minutes.
I was once shown in a "dream" my past lives, not in detail but how they were linked together like a pearl necklace. Then I was shown in more detail my previous pre-1970s life and how, and why it ended.
Money and/or a disinformation/mindcontrol scheme of some sort.
It's as simple as more views = more money.
Thank-you both @Cybe and @DOTS for bringing the topic of deception to the table.
Notwithstanding the AI deception, the NDE topic includes deception just on its own. People have found that writing books on NDE is a money-maker (at least it used to be and now it appears to have moved to videos associated with click-bait). I was first introduced to NDEs when discovering Dannion Brinkley. I even attended a lecture of his which was morose and lacked inspiration. He claims to have been struck by lightening twice! and had 4 NDEs. He sold many, many books. Is he a fake? Maybe the first NDE was real and then fakes thereafter. I do not know, but because of him I was drawn to others who had NDEs and purchased their books (this was when books were popular and there were book stores in a lot of places). I discovered that some of these NDEs did not seem real and were sensationalized as in money making schemes for people to buy their books; but, even more than that, the topic insidiously led to new age dogma and spiritually harmful ideas. In general it is a topic that requires discretion like mostly everything else it seems these days and increasingly so.
