Yes.
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Tiring and irritating to the "self" of the Being?
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That’s exactly the point.
[quote="cybe, post:17, topic:6108“]
Yes, of course, we're talking about exclusively this forum, did I mention some other?
I believe the word should is missing from your sentence, otherwise you are contradicting yourself as you yourself agree that unkind things have and continue to be seen here.
Yes, we should be motivated by the two Great Commandments, but unfortunately it doesn't seem that way always.
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Agreed.
[quote="cybe, post:17, topic:6108“]
I believe that things like these should be pointed out and rectified, as gracefully and logically as possible, not ignored. Especially on a special forum like this with more potential for understanding than elsewhere.
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I understand what you mean. However, disagreements could also be clarified in private dialogue.
I follow a Twitter account of a well-known German government critic who is attacked every day in an extremely rude manner. He doesn't respond once to any insinuations, impertinence or insults and doesn't block any users. He simply continues with factual educational work and presents irrefutable, solid facts. All attempts to report his account always come to nothing because he does not make himself vulnerable in any way. I really like this approach.
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[quote="Ayesa, post:9, topic:6108“]
and secondly it's unfortunately quite „normal“.
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Appeal to Normality. This fallacy occurs when someone justifies or dismisses a behavior simply because it is considered "normal" or typical, rather than evaluating the behavior on its own merits or consequences. Essentially, it is an argument that suggests something is acceptable or doesn't need addressing because it is commonplace.
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Just replace the word "normal" with "explainable" and you'll get what I meant. I was in no way condoning or judging the behaviour. Why would I need a logical fallacy just to talk about a model of group psychology?
[quote="cybe, post:17, topic:6108“]
The question that arises in my mind is whether we're talking about human+Being (inmates) strictly or also free Beings.
Is what is outlined in this Tuckman's clock what we are seeing in this thread? Especially the part about nuclear bombs into the sun, and not the meta discussion we're having now?
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We are discussing here, as you correctly called it, the meta-level of human communication, in this case our communication in the DG forum, outside of a specific thread topic.
(I must confess that I don't like to talk about it anymore because it's part of the professional past that this human has long since finished with. Since reading TWHOFTF, I have realised that there is not much to be said for the so-called human sciences.)
This being said, nobody in the world of group or mass psychology makes a distinction between a human and a being. All findings therefore always refer to humans in the conventional worldly sense.
Secondly, it can be said that not all the findings of mass and social psychology about the dynamics of group processes are wrong. On the contrary, the plandemic has shown that T.H.E.Y in particular have a superior command of this field.
The Tuckman clock can easily be applied to our online community in order to understand that we too are on a dynamic development path and need to find our own culture of discussion and conflict.
Next - which I don't want to do - would be to talk extensively about the roles, tasks, authorities and responsibilities in the team. And finally about the management/leadership of the group. While the Tuckman clock is basically only informative for the individual group members, it provides valuable and urgent recommendations for action, especially for the management/leadership. However, there is no management or leadership in the classical sense here, everyone is more or less subject to the rules from within, just as The Law is something that does not rule from outside, but from within.
I would suggest that we stop psychologising too much now.
I can't say much about the original thread topic about nukes into the sun or on the way to the sun because I am faced with many questions that only the thread author could resolve.
<- no ChatGPTs were harmed in creating that sentence.