Ukraine as 'Big Israel' and "Heavenly Jerusalem Project

Historical era Iron Age:

Srubnaya culture (earlier)
Scythian culture (later)

• Scythian migration from Central Asia to Caucasian Steppe c. 9th–8th century BC
• Scythian alliance with the Neo-Assyrian Empire c. 672 BC
• Scythian conquest of Media c. 652 BC
• Scythian defeat of Cimmerians c. 630s BC
• Median revolt against Scythians c. 625 BC
• Scythian raid across the Levant as far as Egypt c. 620 BC
Medo-Babylonian conquest of the Assyrian Empire c. 614–612 BC
• Expulsion of Scythians from West Asia by Medes c. 600 BC
Persian invasion 513 BC
• War with Macedonia 340–339 BC
Celtic, Getic, and Germanic invasion of Scythia c. 4th century BC
Sarmatian invasion of Scythia c. 3rd century BC
Preceded by Succeeded by
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Scythian kingdom in Crimea 22x15
Scythian kingdom on the lower Danube 22x15
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Today part of Ukraine, Russia, Moldova, Romania, Belarus, Bulgaria, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Georgia, Turkey, Iran

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The incorrect latin dating favoured by many catholic historians, some of whom were priests, and by like-minded archaeologists; most of whom like to contradict God and the Holy Bible; has led to this unnecessary confusion and it has been done purposely to hide the Truth that the Irish people are Israelites.

So we are left with the age-old dilemma of: Who do we believe? God or historians; priests; archaeologists and scientists? I recommend you to choose God because, unlike all of them, He is never wrong. Amen - JAH.

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Thank-you @phithx , @ThePrisoner , @B1

Whilst knowing there were Israelites in the region, I was not able to put a name to those people; and thought of them generally as Russian Israelites. Now, I am able to recognize a connection since Scyths established themselves as rulers of the southern Russian and Crimean territories.

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Hi Nancy
Sorry for the delay.
Im not really sure how to answer this
Let me research a bit.

I do know that the Scythians were originally from the area I described above. Belonging to a long history of Hun / Mongrol / Asia / eventually Iranian, etc., even areas in Russia. When the Old Silk road came into play and trade spread west the Scythians did as well, conquering many tribes along the way.
They raided West Asia with the Cimmerians in the 7 Century. Eventually they turned on the Cimmerians conquering then.

When the Medes expelled them they retreated back to the Pontic Steppe.

They were eventually overwhelmed by the Goths and absorbed by the Slavs.

They DISAPPEARED by medieval, and early modern periods (time line could be questionable).

Various "Scythian" tribes or populations unrelated to the original Scythians came about. Hence
https://jahtruth.net/abraham.htm
As you have also pointed out above.

Im just not certain of the Russian Israelite, but as I said, I will look into it.

Thank you

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You're welcome. Thank-you.

I might have been more specific about "Russian Israelite" and how I came to the conclusion of knowing which is based on personal information rather than on absolute certainty of historical data. My lineage (partially) is Russian "jew". The physical features are Western European rather than the look (caricature) most often associated with "jews". Using the phrase "Russian Israelite" was derived from:

49:27 Benjamin shall ravin [as] a wolf: in the morning he shall devour the prey, and at night he shall divide the spoil.

Benjamin is believed to have remained with the tribe of Judah in and around Israel, as Jews, as well as travelling and settling around the world along with the rest of The 12 Tribes of Israel. The Abrahamic Covenant

Being more specific about 'Russian Israelite", I was thinking along the line of a Russian Judahite based on the above quotes. Perhaps, I was incorrect to say "knowing there were Israelites in the region", but is it far-fetched to think that Benjaminites made their way to land known as Russia?

Open to correction and learning more on the subject. The comment by @phithx resonated true:

I think name Sakadeans could maybe be another derivation of (I)saac's-sons as in the Saxons, so the Scythians/ Sakadeans would not ever have been Ashkenazis/ Khazarians, but were true Israel migrating on-route to the Isles etc

Certainly it is difficult when people take on the identities of others to determine this with certainty.

It seems you've been on this forum for quite some time and as such would know the answer to, or where to find out about...

"Russian Israelites."

With that said, The Scythians "settled in Russia or Crimea, were from the Asia Hun, Mongrol, (Magog)... Tribes, quite different from Scots and " true Israelites". Those "Scythians" unrelated.

Isn't personal opinion attached to self, and the Talmud, instead of historical facts, and isn't that why we have sooo many problems today.

"The physical features are Western European rather than the look (caricature) most often associated with "jews"."

Does it make a difference what your physical features are? That is something we try to ignore, is a "self," perpetuating hamster wheel, gladly to be abandoned.

49:27 Benjamin shall ravin [as] a wolf: in the morning he shall devour the prey, and at night he shall divide the spoil.

Doesn't make any sense whatsoever, unless you want to devour prey and divide spoil.
I suppose that's what a "Russian Israelite" is then. Unless you have a more definitive explanation.

Do you think if that were so, Jah would have put that on His site?

Here's some informative reading:

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The Truth about the Conflict with Russia

By Biblicism Institute

“The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is.” – Winston Churchill

The current conflict between the US and Russia is due to one simple reason: the Ashkenazim. They have a debt to settle with Russia.

Allow us to forward a bit of chronological tables as we delve into the nitty-gritty behind the conflict.

The Ashkenazim – descendants of the gentile Ashkenaz the Japhetite – are a resilient roaming Turkic people. They have a knack for reinventing themselves. They first surfaced in world annals as the notoriously barbaric Scythians or Sakadeans depending on regional phonetic.

“Here there is no Gentile or Judahite, circumcised or uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave or free, but Christ is all, and is in all.” Colossians 3: 11

The word Scythian or Sakadean comes from the word Saka – with its Iranian verbal root Sak meaning to roam.

The Scythians settled Central Eurasia which they conquered with their Gentile brother Togarmath and various other cousins expanding across a vast track of land that encompassed but was not limited to parts of present day Turkey and Iran. Their Gentile brother Riphath along with their uncle Javan’s descendants settled in Greece.

Later on, the Ashkenazim reinvented themselves and settled a land they would call Khazaria – from the word Qasar with its Turkic root Qaz meaning to roam – following the break-up of the western Turkish Steppe Empire. Then the country converted en masse to Judaism/Pharisaism sometime between 740 and 920 AD just so they could remain independent of the two competing empires of that time: Christianity and Islam.

Judaism was the most actively proselytizing religion…The most significant mass conversion occurred in the 8th century, in the massive Khazar kingdom between the Black and Caspian seas,” explained Jewish historian Shlomo Sand.

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Then, Sviatoslav I of Kiev destroyed Khazaria around 1048 and absorbed it into Kievan Rus’, a territory that would later become part of the Russian Empire.

In Imperial Russia, the Ashkenazim were kept under tight control and enclosed in the Pale of Settlement. Something the Ashkenazim never forgave Russia.

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Khazar Ashkenazi Jews 1878

Biding their time, they nurtured their hatred and plotted their revenge along with a new reinvention. They became the power behind the heinous Bolsheviks who took over the Russian government in the 1910s, killed 66 million Christians including 200,000 members of the Christian clergy, and destroyed 40,000 churches according to famed Christian Russian writer Alexander Solzhenitsyn.

480x307The great majority of the Bolsheviks were Russian Ashkenazi Jews such as Vladimir Lenin, Leon Trosky, Lev Kamenev, Gregory Zinoviev, Yakov Sverdlov, and Grigory Sokolnikov. They were financed by Ashkenazi bankers from New York and London such as Rothschild Bank and Jacob Schiff of Kuhn and Loeb & Co. who themselves championed the destructive ideology of the Ashkenazi Karl Marx and found it profitable to invest in Communism’s disastrous conquest of Russia while making a few bucks in the process by plundering the country via well placed agents who would later be known as ‘oligarchs‘.

Russia’s entire Soviet Empire collapsed in 1991. Thus, the Ashkenazim succeeded in bringing Russia to its knees.

Revenge Round 1. Done.

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Khazaria overlapped Ukraine & Crimea

Today Russia is under fire for the conflict in Ukraine. A conflict that was started by the Ashkenazi Victoria Nuland in the US State Department with her neo-con Ashkenazi husband Robert Kagan working in the background via powerful organizations such as Project for a New American Century, the Brookings Institution, and Council on Foreign Relations. The Ashkenazi George Soros also contributed financially to the Ukrainian Maidan ‘Revolution’.

“Many of the participants in Kiev’s ‘EuroMaidan’ demonstrations were members of Soros-funded NGOs and/or were trained by the same NGOs in the many workshops and conferences sponsored by Soros’ International Renaissance Foundation (IRF), and his various Open Society institutes and foundations. The IRF, founded and funded by Soros, boasts that it has given ‘more than any other donor organization’ to ‘democratic transformation’ of Ukraine,” wrote William F. Jasper in The New American.

In other words, the Ashkenazim are goading the Russian bear by wagging the American dog. The dog can’t really decline because AIPAC has it by the groin. And remember, AIPAC is controlled by powerful Ashkenazi-American business leaders. See How the Ashkenazi Jews conquered the West

Their sole purpose is to destroy Russia once again by starting a fire in its underbelly, Ukraine. A fire they’re planning to spread into Russia proper via military and economic warfare. Why? Because Russia has had the gall to rise from its still warm Ashkenazi-induced ashes. And because Russia has had the temerity to arrest their well placed thieving agents known as ‘oligarchs’ with some fleeing the country. And because Russia has had the audacity to impede the American war on Syria which was orchestrated by AIPAC for the benefit of Israel.

Revenge Round 2. In progress.

After the destruction of Khazaria, the Ashkenazim scattered East and West throughout Europe and reinvented themselves as Errant Jews or Wandering Jews – meaning Roaming (Khazarian/Sakadean or Scythian) Jews. That label had nothing to do with a longing for Palestine but a longing for Khazaria or perhaps a longing for a new land, any new land. Here’s an excerpt from Wikipedia:

In 1903 Theodore Herzl presented the British Uganda Program at the Sixth Zionist Congress in Basel.

In the late 1930s, the British Zionist League considered a number of other places where a Jewish homeland could be established. The Kimberley region in Australia was considered until the Curtin government (in office: 1941–1945) rejected the possibility.

With the support of the then Premier of Tasmania, Robert Cosgrove (in office from 1939), Critchley Parker proposed a Jewish settlement at Port Davey, in south west Tasmania. Parker surveyed the area, but his death in 1942 put an end to the idea.

The Jewish Autonomous Oblast set up in the Russian Far East in 1934, represented a Soviet approach to providing a Jewish homeland.

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In the wake of World War 2, a great number reluctantly assimilated themselves throughout the Americas. However, the great majority migrated to Palestine where they created many terrorist groups such as the Irgun. They terrorized the Palestinian population, killed thousands upon thousands, and forced hundreds of thousands out of their homes and into neighboring Arab countries. Consequently, they stole Palestine and renamed it Israel in order to reinvent themselves as Hebrews and hoodwink gullible Christians in the West.

In their adoptive countries outside of Israel, including the US and Europe, the Ashkenazim have become financial and influential powerhouses, not because they’re Jews – at heart the majority of them are really not religious at all and could care less – but because they’re a shrewd people. They have learned much from their roaming throughout history, and they assimilate themselves fast and hard. They’re the ultimate Nomads.

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Was this on Putin’s mind?

Now could it be that, after two successive ideological failures in the forms of Communism and the current slow motion destruction of Zionism in Israel, somewhere deep inside the minds of die-hard Ashkenazi leaders lies a plan for a new reinvention?

Will that reinvention be the re-conquest of their Khazar Khaganate – a land that is situated deep inside Russia and encompasses Ukraine and Crimea? Is that why Putin suddenly reattached Crimea to Russia?

Could it be that the Ashkenzim’s plan is to take back and re-settle their ancient Khazaria after the Downfall of Apartheid Israel? Is it why the duly elected President of Ukraine was forcibly removed in order to install a puppet government with a new Prime Minister named Arseniy Yatsenyuk who according to The Guardian is playing down his Jewish roots?

Will they be okay with just Ukraine?

Revenge Round 3?

Jamais deux sans trois.

“I saw the prosperity of the wicked… Their strength is firm… Pride serves as their necklace; Violence covers them like a garment… This is what the wicked are like—always free of concern as they go on amassing wealth... Surely (Lord) You place them on slippery ground… How suddenly they fall and are destroyed, completely swept away by terrors!” Psalm 73:2,4,6,12,18,19

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Are you familiar with this as it tends to be less than a benign blanket statement.

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@B1

Race and National heritage is associated with certain physical characteristics. Fact.
The miscegenation enthusiasts would have one believe and desire otherwise. Fact.

Are all jews, Ashkenazi-jews? Mostly, but not all. Fact.

Is it possible that descendants from the original Tribes of Israel migrated to the region discussed in this topic? Yes, it is possible.

If the above line is possible, could there be Semitic jews (Judahites) in that region? Yes.

Might those jews in the line above refer to themselves as Russian Israelites, Russian Judahites or Russian jews? Yes.

Is there malicious intent to deceive the nations about the true nature of True Israel? Yes.

Have a nice day.

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Hi @NancyDrewberry

Thank you kindly, I did and am having a nice day.

I met a boy who was so thrilled to receive TWHOFTF he cried. It's inspiring to see someone with such interest in The Lord, let's pray he follows thru. :pray:

You're right, it is factual that race is associated with certain physical characteristics. For example the "black Irish" with their dark hair, skin tones, and even the eyes are associated with Spain, or Iberia in the southern pensula. (Hebrew Land).

Heritage falls more along the line of something transmitted or acquired, legacy, valued things passed down from generation to generation, as in materials.

Thank you for sharing "The miscegenation enthusiasts" as this is the first time I've heard that term used. So I'll hold off on commenting, until I have a better understanding.

God had made a promise to ONE Nation, the Israelite Nation, (people of the covenant). A Birthright for true Israelites.

The Southern Kingdom of Judah, that was held captive by Nebuchadnezzar's Babylon ended that kingdom.

The remnant of Benjamin returned under Cyrus, and the Nation was ruled by gentiles, under man made laws, or the Nation of Jews.

Jesus said a Nation bringing forth fruit thereof are (Israelites). Jesus took 'Jewery" (Nationally) FROM that section of Israel, and passed it to the 10 tribes, and the routes they traveled didn't lead them to Russia.

In thee and thy seed shall all the families of the earth be blessed.
And ye shall be Holy unto me
I have severed you from other people
that ye should be mine.
Prophetic marks of **latter day Israel **
All born to Celt-Anglo-Saxondom
But Not Jewery
And being National and Material
National blessings to latter day Israel to be Gods servant.

Celt-Anglo-Saxondom gradually isolated from the gentile world

All satans attempts to create a 5th
gentile empire FAIL.

Isaiah ( I will send those that escape to the isles far off)

To the north and west of Palestine.

Zedakiah was the last king before the
final captivity of the kingdom of Judah, carried away into Babylon.

As we know Jeremiah bought Zedakiiahs daughters to Egypt

The Davidic covenant not to be broken or Altered

Jesus "I am not sent except unto the lost sheep of the " House of Israel".
He commanded His 12 "go not in the way of the gentiles, rather, go to the lost sheep - House of Israel

Jesus made His new covenant with the House of Israel, (into His own Nation) not the House of Judah.

Christ transferred the kingdom from the disbelieving Jewery, who have yet to perform their part with Israel in His greater plan.

**National redemption Does Not mean individual salvation. **
The Nation must get it right with God.

It is the responsibility of the Individual Jew, gentile or Israelite to find salvation in Christ.

Aaron was in charge of the National priesthood, Moses was in charge of both the spiritual side and the law, so the community as a Nation could be a witness for God.

Unity CANNOT lie in denominations, nor in a creed- (For example "Russian Israelite") (No such denomination has been mentioned by The Lord)

Gentiles are adopted into this Israel Institution for Christ, "They which are of faith are the same as the children of Abraham."

Now gentile nations band together in Godless formations against the Cel-Anglo-Saxondom, and all will be bought into slavery to Russia.

True Jewery cry in bitterness to God that day.
A Nation can be spiritually born through true repentance and true humility bringing with that true reconciliation.

The spirits of devils working miracles go forth unto the kings of the earth and the world to gather them to the battle of that Great Day of God Almighty.

Judahs 4th son had twins Zarah and Pharez.
Pharez was the line of David who with Zedakiahs daughter Teia Tephi, bought the red hand flag with the "Jewish" star to Ireland.
Zarah was driven west to Spain, by Babylon, and eventually to Ireland.

It's true most Jews 95 percent are Ashkenazi counterfeit Jews but not all.5 percent give it take a notch or two.
Is there a possibility of semitic Jews in the region, could be, ...
You have a good evening and thank you

Hi @phithx

Thank you kindly for pointing out Raymond E. Capt's map, it's very helpful.

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The Black Sea lies at the crossroads between Europe and Asia, bounded by the relatively flat Eastern Balkans to the west, the East European Plain (Russian Plain) to the north and northwest, the mountainous Caucasus to the east, and the Anatolian Peninsula, also known as Asia Minor, to the south.

There are six countries with coastlines on the Black Sea (clockwise), Ukraine, Russia, Georgia, Turkey (Türkiye), Bulgaria, and Romania.

And wouldn't you know it, Isreals (fake Israel ) secret plan for a second Israel in Ukraine.

Please see the link above, Ukraine as 'Big Israel' and "Heavenly Jerusalem Project - #32 by be1

The role of Jewish figures and that of the State of Israel in the Ukrainian crisis has not gone unnoticed considering that this community represents less than 1 percent of the population. However, a secret report in the hands of the Netanyahu administration confirms that Ashkenazi Jews do not originate from the Levant, but are the descendants of the Khazars. This little-known population founded a Jewish empire in the tenth century on the banks of the Black Sea. Therefore, some Zionists see in Ukraine a possible second Israel.

The Times of Israel, an independent Israeli newspaper that counts among its staff a number of former reporters for the Israeli daily Ha’aretz, published a fascinating but largely overlooked story datelined Jerusalem and Zhitomir, Ukraine, March 16, 2014, and which was written by its respective Russian and Ukrainian correspondents, Hirsh Ostropoler and I. Z. Grosser-Spass, citing a secret report provided to the Israeli government . The report, written by a select panel of scholars of Jewish history drawn from academia and other research centers, concluded that that European Jews are in fact descended from Khazars, a war-like Mongol-Tatar group that ruled over Ukraine and southern Russia, which mass-converted to Judaism in the eighth century AD.

Zionists have long argued that the land claimed by Israel was the biblical birthright of the Jewish people who were forced from the land in a so-called «diaspora» after repeated conquests by various empires. Proof that Ashkenazi Jews, which make up a majority of the Israeli Jewish population, have no historical link to Palestine would call into question the entire premise of Israel as the historical «5,000-year old» homeland of the Jewish people

The Israeli journalists noted that any conversation of the Khazars and modern Israel has always been met with disdain by Israeli leaders. They quote Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir as once saying, «Khazar, Schmazar. There is no Khazar people. I knew no Khazars. In Kiev. Or Milwaukee. Show me these Khazars of whom you speak». DNA proof that a migratory Khazar population from Europe is now claiming ancient roots in Palestine largely eliminates Zionist claims to the region.
The evidence that eastern and central European Jews have no historical claim to Palestine has resulted in a flurry of activity in Israel and abroad. The Israeli Knesset will soon vote on a bill passed by the Israeli Cabinet that legalizes Israel as a Jewish «national state». Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, who read the secret report on the Khazars, has declared that «Israel is the Jewish, nationalist state for the Jewish people». With the Ashkenazi claims to Israel tenuous, at best, Netanyahu, his Likud Party, and his Jewish Orthodox and West Bank settler party allies have no other choice but to aggressively stake their nationalist claims to not only Israel but also to the West Bank – which the nationalists refer to as «Judea and Samaria».

Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk, OT-6 (Operative Thetan Level 6) within the Church of Scientology, in conversation with Mafia boss Ihor Kolomoyskyi whom he appointed governor of the Dnipropetrovsk Oblast. The latter was involved in the organization of the Odessa massacre on 2 May 2014, with his private army, the 1st Dnipro Battalion. He hired the son of US Vice-President Joe Biden, R. Hunter Biden, plus Secretary of State John Kerry’s support committee chairman, Devon Archer, as board members of his gas holding.

However, some Israelis and Jews abroad are not taking any chances. One of the main reasons why Ukrainian Jewish billionaire tycoon Ihor Kolomoisky, the governor of Ukraine’s Dnipropetrovsk province and citizen of Ukraine, Israel, and Cyprus, is spending tens of millions of dollars on the recruitment of right-wing Ukrainian nationalists and neo-Nazis from other parts of Europe to fight against the Russian-speaking majority in the Donbass region of eastern Ukraine, is a fear that plans to turn Ukraine into a «second Israel» will be derailed. Russia’s protective measures for the Donbass, as well as its incorporation by referendum of Crimea, the latter prized by the resurgent Khazarian Jewish nationalists, threaten the transformation of Ukraine into a second homeland for Ashkenazi Jews who are finding their hold on Israel prime tenuous, at best.

The Times of Israel’s explosive story about the Khazarian roots of the Ashkenazis also revealed that Israel, knowing that a Palestinian state is inevitable considering the increasing pressure for it from Europe, is preparing to resettle Ashkenazi settlers in the West Bank to Ukraine. Israel’s advanced research in genetics resulted in a direct DNA line being established between Israel’s Ashkenazis and the Khazars who were dispersed across eastern and central Europe after Russia conquered the Khazarian Empire in the 11th century.

Israelis and their Zionist allies around the world have always accused proponents of the Khazarian-Ashkenazi genetic connection of deep-rooted anti-Semitism. However, the genetic research contained in the secret Israeli report confirms what Israeli historian Shlomo Sand revealed in his book, «The Invention of the Jewish People». The concept of the Khazarian bloodline was first broached by Hungarian historian Arthur Koestler in his 1976 «The Thirteenth Tribe».

The Times of Israel reporters quoted an unnamed aide to Netanyahu who revealed the plans for Israeli emigration to Ukraine: «We first thought that admitting we are really Khazars was one way to get around [Palestinian President Mahmoud] Abbas’s insistence that no Jew can remain in a Palestinian state. Maybe we were grasping at straws. But when he refused to accept that, it forced us to think about more creative solutions. The Ukrainian invitation for the Jews to return was a godsend. Relocating all the settlers within Israel in a short time would be difficult for reasons of logistics and economics. We certainly don’t want another fashlan like the expulsion of the settlers in the Gaza Hitnatkut [disengagement]».

Ostropoler and Grosser-Spass also quoted an anonymous Israeli intelligence source as saying: «We’re not talking about all the Ashkenazi Jews going back to Ukraine. Obviously that is not practical. The press as usual exaggerates and sensationalizes; this is why we need military censorship».

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So the Scythia depicted in Raymond E Capts map clearly shows the Asian
Mongrol Scythian associated with the Old Silk Rd.

Not a route that the Israel(true) took when fleeing to west of Palestine?
Could go through Egypt Libia, Gibraltar..
The Mediterranean Sea
It's highly unlikely they would travel all the way up to the Caucus Mountain area and terrain while heading west.

Thoughts?

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Pentagon Briefing:

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The Ukrainian authorities would like Russia to strike Ukraine with nuclear weapons! Lukashenko

October 28, 2924

The West wants negotiations between Russia and Ukraine more than Zelensky! At the 2024 BRICS summit in Kazan, Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko gave an interview about the crisis around Ukraine.

The Ukrainian authorities would like Russia to strike Ukraine with nuclear...

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